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Using peoples computers without asking acceptance
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mustafa umut sarac
2005-12-13 18:15:20 UTC
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Hello ,

I read somewhere that us scientists are using online computers for
distributed computing without asking for get acceptance.
How can I do this ? Is there a program for this ?

regards ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac
flobert
2005-12-13 21:31:54 UTC
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On 13 Dec 2005 10:15:20 -0800, "mustafa umut sarac"
Post by mustafa umut sarac
Hello ,
I read somewhere that us scientists are using online computers for
distributed computing without asking for get acceptance.
How can I do this ? Is there a program for this ?
A friend did look at doing this via his website using a java system
embedded int he site, even with 100,000 visitors a day though, it was
still only doing about the same amount of work as a 1.5Ghz P4
Post by mustafa umut sarac
regards ,
Mustafa Umut Sarac
David C. DiNucci
2005-12-14 04:32:18 UTC
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Post by mustafa umut sarac
Hello ,
I read somewhere that us scientists are using online computers for
distributed computing without asking for get acceptance.
How can I do this ? Is there a program for this ?
US scientists? Without getting acceptance from the computers' owners?
I would believe that some organizations might pool unused workstations
without the primary user's "acceptance", but those are owned by the
organization, not the primary user.

Maybe you were reading about the old KazaA/Altnet/Brilliant Digital setup?
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/04/26/1019441306209.html
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/05/07/kazaa.software.idg/index.html

-Dave
mustafa umut sarac
2005-12-14 15:06:48 UTC
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Hello again ,

I am sure that the magazine says us scientists are using home computers
without owner acceptance for science , intelligence or harm the people.
And they are using a hack program not kazaa or other innocent ways.
us scientist are the dirtiest science makers that the world history
ever saw.
Thats not the main issue now.
The problem is to hack the kazaa users - may be with a kazaa software
which connects me to all other kazaa users - or another idea .

Any idea ?
Best ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac
Post by David C. DiNucci
Post by mustafa umut sarac
Hello ,
I read somewhere that us scientists are using online computers for
distributed computing without asking for get acceptance.
How can I do this ? Is there a program for this ?
US scientists? Without getting acceptance from the computers' owners?
I would believe that some organizations might pool unused workstations
without the primary user's "acceptance", but those are owned by the
organization, not the primary user.
Maybe you were reading about the old KazaA/Altnet/Brilliant Digital setup?
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/04/26/1019441306209.html
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/05/07/kazaa.software.idg/index.html
-Dave
David C. DiNucci
2005-12-14 16:26:26 UTC
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Post by mustafa umut sarac
Hello again ,
I am sure that the magazine says us scientists are using home computers
without owner acceptance for science , intelligence or harm the people.
If you are so sure what "the magazine" says, why are you asking here?
Are you asking for evidence for what it says, or just asserting it as fact?
Post by mustafa umut sarac
And they are using a hack program not kazaa or other innocent ways.
us scientist are the dirtiest science makers that the world history
ever saw.
I guess that answers my last question. For the most part, US scientists
are nowhere near that resourceful. If US scientists were actually
reclaiming unused cycles from home machines instead of buying into new
machines, I'd say they'd be some of the *cleanest* science makers. Not
only would they be saving money/energy, they would apparently have
little to hide if they were spreading it out to all those home machines
instead of just running behind a wall on one of the several government
machines offered for such purposes.
Post by mustafa umut sarac
Thats not the main issue now.
The problem is to hack the kazaa users - may be with a kazaa software
which connects me to all other kazaa users - or another idea .
Any idea ?
So now, you're apparently not asking if it's true, nor asserting as
fact, but asking how to do it?

People steal CPU access all the time, through spyware, viruses and other
hacking. See a security site (e.g.
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/global/index.html) for a huge list.

"Connects me to all other kazaa users"...Sounds like you missed the
meaning of "p2p".

-Dave
flobert
2005-12-14 16:45:13 UTC
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:26:26 -0800, "David C. DiNucci"
Post by David C. DiNucci
Post by mustafa umut sarac
Hello again ,
I am sure that the magazine says us scientists are using home computers
without owner acceptance for science , intelligence or harm the people.
If you are so sure what "the magazine" says, why are you asking here?
Are you asking for evidence for what it says, or just asserting it as fact?
Post by mustafa umut sarac
And they are using a hack program not kazaa or other innocent ways.
us scientist are the dirtiest science makers that the world history
ever saw.
I guess that answers my last question. For the most part, US scientists
are nowhere near that resourceful. If US scientists were actually
reclaiming unused cycles from home machines instead of buying into new
machines, I'd say they'd be some of the *cleanest* science makers. Not
only would they be saving money/energy, they would apparently have
little to hide if they were spreading it out to all those home machines
instead of just running behind a wall on one of the several government
machines offered for such purposes.
Post by mustafa umut sarac
Thats not the main issue now.
The problem is to hack the kazaa users - may be with a kazaa software
which connects me to all other kazaa users - or another idea .
Any idea ?
So now, you're apparently not asking if it's true, nor asserting as
fact, but asking how to do it?
People steal CPU access all the time, through spyware, viruses and other
hacking. See a security site (e.g.
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/global/index.html) for a huge list.
"Connects me to all other kazaa users"...Sounds like you missed the
meaning of "p2p".
Kazaa aint about p2p nowadays, except for maybe porn2porn
Post by David C. DiNucci
-Dave
David C. DiNucci
2005-12-14 18:42:24 UTC
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Post by flobert
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:26:26 -0800, "David C. DiNucci"
Post by David C. DiNucci
"Connects me to all other kazaa users"...Sounds like you missed the
meaning of "p2p".
Kazaa aint about p2p nowadays, except for maybe porn2porn
I wouldn't personally know one way or the other, not being a user, but I
see the first words on their help page:

http://www.kazaa.com/us/help/glossary/p2p.htm

are "Kazaa uses peer-to-peer technology." Maybe you're claiming
otherwise because search directories appear to be localized?

-Dave
flobert
2005-12-14 19:22:13 UTC
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:42:24 -0800, "David C. DiNucci"
Post by David C. DiNucci
Post by flobert
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:26:26 -0800, "David C. DiNucci"
Post by David C. DiNucci
"Connects me to all other kazaa users"...Sounds like you missed the
meaning of "p2p".
Kazaa aint about p2p nowadays, except for maybe porn2porn
I wouldn't personally know one way or the other, not being a user, but I
http://www.kazaa.com/us/help/glossary/p2p.htm
are "Kazaa uses peer-to-peer technology." Maybe you're claiming
otherwise because search directories appear to be localized?
I do some writing and research on p2p networks as a sideline. Kazaa
nowadays is the domain of the sort of pornography where "extreme
tastes" is if anything, an understatement. In fact, kazaa and usenet
are probably the only two such places to get that sort of stuff from.

Its something to write and read about (p2p that is) whilst I'm waiting
for each manual edsign i've come up with to run in DPAD-Muon1
Post by David C. DiNucci
-Dave
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